Episodes

Wednesday Mar 12, 2025
Steady the Ship: How to Bring Your Business Vision into Focus with Jhana Li
Wednesday Mar 12, 2025
Wednesday Mar 12, 2025
Welcome to the Four Rooms Podcast, where hosts Amber Spears and Brett Kaufman dive into the intricate balance of entrepreneurship, health, wealth, scale, and relationships. On this episode, Kaufman is joined by Jhana Li of Spyglass Ops, who shares her unique journey into operations. Discover how her passion for pirates inspired her company name and philosophy, guiding entrepreneurs through the often murky waters of business.
Learn valuable insights drawn from Jhana's transition from being directionless in life to mastering the art of operations. She details the essential visionary-operator dynamic, likened to the gas and brake pedals of a car, and offers practical advice on creating a harmonious balance between the two roles in any successful business.
With personal anecdotes and a deep dive into entrepreneurial mindset, this episode is a must for anyone looking to strengthen their business operations while nurturing essential relationships.

Wednesday Feb 26, 2025
Behind the Scenes of ClickFunnels: Kevin Richards Shares His Journey
Wednesday Feb 26, 2025
Wednesday Feb 26, 2025
Welcome to the Four Rooms podcast, where Amber Spears and Brett Kaufman explore the multidimensional world of entrepreneurship, focusing on health, wealth, scale, and relationships. In this episode, we're joined by Kevin Richards, the COO of ClickFunnels, who gives us a rare look behind the curtain of one of the internet's leading marketing platforms.
From his early days working alongside visionary entrepreneurs to his pivotal role at ClickFunnels, Kevin shares his journey of transitions, challenges, and groundbreaking innovations. He discusses the importance of understanding vision in operations, the evolution of ClickFunnels, and the exciting shift towards collaborative commerce, opening up new possibilities for entrepreneurs everywhere.
Tune in to discover how ClickFunnels is setting the stage for the next generation of marketing technology and why now is the time to revisit this powerhouse tool.

Wednesday Feb 12, 2025
Building Resilience Through Vulnerability
Wednesday Feb 12, 2025
Wednesday Feb 12, 2025
Welcome to this heartfelt episode of the Four Rooms Podcast. In today's discussion, our host Amber Spears and Tony Grebmeier, author, entrepreneur and CEO of Shipoffers, share personal journeys of overcoming intense pain and grief, shedding light on the transformative power of consistent support and friendship.
Amber and Tony open up about their unique bond, which blossomed through shared struggles and immense personal growth, vulnerability, the importance of asking for help, and how these experiences have shaped their entrepreneurial paths.
Listen in as they reflect on deep personal losses, the resilience born from these challenges, and how they continue to honor loved ones by sharing their lessons and legacies. This episode is a testament to the strength found in vulnerability and the enduring impact of true friendship.

Wednesday Jan 29, 2025
Tax-Smart Strategies for Entrepreneurs with Justin Maxwell
Wednesday Jan 29, 2025
Wednesday Jan 29, 2025
In this episode of the Four Rooms Podcast, co-host Brett Kaufman sits down with Justin Maxwell from Big Life Financials to discuss effective strategies to help entrepreneurs legally save money on taxes and retain more of their hard-earned cash.
Through his transformative journey from a physical education teacher to a financial expert, Justin shares insights on proactive tax planning, the importance of a great advisory team, and innovative financial strategies for sustainable wealth growth.
Discover actionable tips like the Augusta rule, strategic income distribution, and tax-smart investments tailored for business owners. Join us as we learn how to make our entrepreneurial journey not just profitable, but profoundly successful.

Wednesday Jan 15, 2025
The Power of Customer-Centric Businesses
Wednesday Jan 15, 2025
Wednesday Jan 15, 2025
Welcome to the Four Rooms podcast, where entrepreneurship, health, wealth, and relationships are explored with insightful guests to help you propel your business journey. In this episode, host Amber Spears chats with Bryan Noel, sharing strategies for aligning business growth with customer needs and entrepreneurial goals.
Bryan, featured at the Four Rooms Mastermind Intensive, emphasizes the shift from leadership-focused to customer-first approaches. Through powerful examples, including his journey in the sports apparel industry, he showcases how understanding customer desires can revolutionize a product and set a brand apart in competitive markets. If you're into stories of adaptive business strategies during unexpected events and understanding the significance of staying attuned to customer insights for sustained success, this episode is for you.
Join us as we rethink conventional paths to achieving a balance of personal fulfillment and professional triumph in the entrepreneurial world.

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